. >> bill: because of benghazi. >> because of the way the republicans have highlighted this as an issue. john kerry who has been you know the bridesmaid for this position for years and years and years, he is dying for the position. we know that he wants it. he's all lined up and ready to go. it is also very clear senate republicans have made it clear he will sail through a confirmation and that's important. so now it is kind of looking -- by process of elimination that he potentially is back in the front of the line. he remains a top contender. no question. >> bill: would he take defense if he doesn't get state? >> i make no claims to reading the mind of john kerry. he sphnt made himself available to the press to talk about it. >> bill: it would not be a step down to be secretary of defense. >> of course not. he has a lot of experience on foreign policy issues. it would be an appropriate fit. >> bill: no matter what they said in 2004, he is a genuine america war hero. i want to throw that in here.